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Curt

Simple. What if the blind person is simply a gun collector, rebuilder, refinisher, etc? I recently built for a blind Veteran an incredible solid oak workbench with a vise, electrical outlets and pegboard wall for his tools. As a woodworker, he builds and creates. As a collector or gun repairman, maybe the Iowan needs a permit to legally carry the gun when driven to a gun shop. Check the stats, how many of those with conceal carry permits actually fire those weapons in defense? He wants a conceal carry permit. If he qualifies, give it to him. Maybe I should have used "common sense" and not built that Veteran his workbench. He might shoot someone with his nail gun.....

Curt

For now, we are still in America, right? Land of the free? Why are Progressives so hell bent on beating down our freedom and rights? It's his right, if he qualifies, to get a permit. Sounds funny, yes. Butt of many late night jokes, yes. But it's America. Give him the damn permit. And stay out his way!!

Roger German

Curt, the common sense part is what I was referring to. Common sense says you take each case as it comes up and don't cram a one-size-fits-all law down our collective throats. I think we're on the same page here, but in a general sense, I agree with Stevie Wonder on this one. In general, it is not a good idea to yell out "fire" in a crowed theater, although we are guaranteed freedom of speech; common sense. In general, giving loaded weapons to blind people to carry in public might be guaranteed by the Constitution, but it doesn't seem a common sense approach to reasonable social
gun safety.

 randy

Obama-care is a one-size-fits all law crammed down our throats. Whats the common sense in that? Where was the blog on that item? Yelling fire in a theater endangers people, and it has not been shown that granting this right to the blind does the same, unless your presupposition is that the blind are stupid, unable to to this. You are aligning them with those who yell "fire." Many liberals say ... "guaranteed by the Constitution...but." And, your conception of 'reasonable gun safety' is actually anti constitutional. Until our own sons and daughters are attacked or raped before our eyes, the liberal will always hope for the best with a trusty umbrella for a house weapon.

Roger German

Wow...Randy, Curt...you guys are kidding me, right? This isn't a Liberal or Conservative or Progressive or Left or Right issue. It's a common sense issue. You're advocating for people who can not see at all to carry loaded weapons in public?? That will make us somehow safer? Most states have laws requiring some level of competency for a person to have the right to carry a loaded weapon in public. Not to own a gun, or have a collection, but to carry a loaded weapon in public.
Part of that competency I would hope would include being able to hit what you aim at, which is no easy task even with 20/20 vision. If you can't see......??? You guys are kidding, just because it's me and you think you have to disagree, right?

Curt

It is very simple Roger. Who said anything about "safer"? It is America and he has the RIGHT to carry a gun, if he's qualified. Competency? So a blind person is automatically incompetent? He's blind. Who says he's carrying it for protection? If he qualifies, give him the permit. Why judge his competency? I'm for freedom and common sense. It is a Progressive issue. We are so over regulated it sickens me. Like 10,000 pages of regulations for implementing Obamacare. Really? If doesn't fit YOUR rules, then no gun permit. If he qualifies, give him the permit. It is so simple. Why is this even news, except for the humor!!

Curt

Roger, take a gander on Facebook to an article I shared as to why the Liberal run state of California is broke. Again, so fricken simple. Government ain't the solution, it's the PROBLEM.

Jim E

Progressive - I guess I'm a Anti progressive ( great twist and use of words) less gov serves me and my family well - I watch Cali - over tax - over spend & over regulate - thus we are moving our business to Wy...Detroit is just the tip ..... where this is going when the progressives get their way --- no one stepping up to take responsibility for their life or actions ---very sad .....Roman here we come ---free everything --- dollar worth Zip ---

 randy

The actual folly of progressive thinking is that progress is not being made. In fact the moral, economic, educational, financial and spiritual conditions are all receding into the grey. This is exactly where progressive love to stand. Never, ever standing for the right, nor totally opposing wrong, but always within the mythical grey.

Roger German

Oddly enough, I need to remind myself that this blog was about legislation in Iowa getting guns into the hands of folks who, through no fault of their own, can not see. Curt, I'm don't doubt the competency of blind people. You wrote that "he has a right to carry a gun, if he's qualified." I agree. But I do have to say that in this one specific area, the ability to see the target you intend to shoot should be part of that qualification. Without some other source of help, a blind person cannot do that, by definition of what it means to be blind. Limiting the right to carry and use a loaded weapon in a public place to those who can see seemed to me to be common sense. It seems we disagree on that. Apparently, so do Randy and Jim. Have to admit I am a bit surprised by that, but it is America and we each have the right to express that opinion. I might point out though, that even the right to free speech is limited at times by common sense. Perhaps you disagree with that limitation also.

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