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Fey

Oddly enough, a 40$ billion wall will protect you much more and you need it far more than health care

Roger German

...Through the looking glass, doublespeak and alternate facts...Lewis Carroll and Orwell doubled down and dumbstruck.

R

All Americans are rightly disturbed by the growing numbers of illegal aliens flooding into the US. That’s why we have to move more aggressively to secure our border by hiring a record number of new border guards and we also need to deport twice as many criminal aliens as we ever have before, then really crack down hard on illegal hiring of these individuals, furthermore we must bar all-welfare benefits to illegal aliens. We also need to do more with speeding up deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes, we then must identify all illegal aliens in the workplace. The wall, 40 billion dollars and the , taxpayer cost for illegals each year? That’s 113 billion dollars. The ACA wasn’t affordable at all, and was dragging the ship beneath the waves for the majority. S.P in Britain and Canada is literally fraught with troubling problems. In our nation are countless numbers who also read book after book, and come to opposite conclusions and , perspectives are like elbows, each one has at least two. So we certainly need to work on these problems but I would not lean into single payer too much too fast. Look at the VA. Too much wreckage imo. Finally, I recall all kinds of “coincidences” with the previous Prez, too numerous to mention. Probably all totally legitimate coincidences Im sure.

Roger German

Walls merely indicate failed policies on both sides of a border. The Soviet Union put up walls in Berlin, complete with machine guns, dogs, guards....and people still got through. Walls slow some things down, that's for sure, but are mostly for show, and the president will surely be able to show he's doing something. But it won't stop people from trying to better their lives by coming into the US. The only one who will truly be able to do that is the new president, and if he's successful with enough of his anti-most-everything-but-business policies, that should help stem the flood of people who want to come here. At some point we will destroy the very thing we love about America.
If we used the billions we will spend on the wall to help Mexico and Central America grow their own economies, we would be well served. Our history of meddling in Central America to benefit companies like United Fruit (refer back to Writing of Peace 4) is abysmal.
With the wealth and power of the United States we could be the Shining Light on the Hill, instead of acting like the whimpering child hiding behind walls.
Like I wrote before reference the ACA, my own personal experience was positive. We have insurance for Tracy that we can afford. In other words, Affordable. And I know of several other folks here in Gainesville with similar results. The insurance companies have done a great job of sowing disinformation and lobbying Congress to throw as many wrenches into health care as they can...they like it as it is, and our new president is very, very friendly to business interests. He has no idea how government is supposed to work. He knows only how to increase his own piece of the pie at the expense of others. Many folks like his method of business and want that perspective brought to government. I'm not a fan. I hope it works out better than my own foreboding opines.

Fey

Try this elbow on for size. If you build a 20 foot wall, "they" will bring a 21 foot ladder. Do you know the horrible risk to workers who have built part of the present Mexican wall? I do. The workers on the wall lived in terror. They were shot by snipers, attacked, decapitated. Once built, walls must be continually staffed and maintained. With $40 billion, The US could just flat out pay for medical costs.
60% or more of immigrants fly in or come through Canada. Gonna build a wall there too?
And if ALL Americans will rethink. We are illegal immigrants by a mere hundred years who violently destroyed native cultures which had lived on this continent for eons.
Refresh your history. We have stolen this land under the premise of religious fervor.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-shocking-savagery-of-americas-early-history-22739301/

R

I wondered if there would be a nerve here, and so there is. In the name of disclosure, 85% of the post was not mine. It did get a rousing ovation from liberals in congress, clapping for long minutes when made. Bill Clinton made these points as he assessed the horrible negligence of national security, and he was dead on right.
Funny thing. Hillary wanted a wall too at one point, and
We need national security and the previous administrations ignored the laws and opened the flood gates. Its moot now, because its happening, and over half the country is thankful it is. Im one of them, you good patriots are not. He won, and elections have consequences as Pres Obama made certain everyone knew. Back then there was a lot of clapping when O gloated in victory. Now Trump says exactly what Clinton was praised for and we have aneurisms. So...Okay..peace. Its a bright morning

R

Ps
US code 1182 (f)
Addresses the legality issue, and is helpful. Carter suspended aliens, Obama did too, Bill cracked down hard on illegals, Hillary wanted a wall, and contrary to liberal opinion Israel, Mexico and China have walls. Sixty five countries have border walls. Why? Because they dont work? No, its Because they are not foolish, not naive, they understand reality, and because walls do work. Perfectly? NO, nothing will be perfect. Doing nothing, ignoring immigration laws, winking, supporting at and supporting with tax dollars sanctuary cities, Is a recipe for death. We dont need anymore Islamic terror or sharia law competing with the constitution. Lets avoid another Orlando, or another Kate Steinle. People everywhere may come here legally by the book, or dont come in. Thats proper, appropriate, most of all its the law, unless progressive ideology no longer values that. Middle America still holds to law and order unlike the previous administration, therefore we will now veer away from globalism at long last. The Brits , La Pen is another example of those folks turning away too. Globalism hopefully will become extinct. We welcome everyone...one and all, yes even native Americans. Indians were stealing and butchering each other for years so its not a real good deductive argument.
However, people must abide by law. If not, we set an example for lawlwessness as O did. We cant have that, and Trump wont have it, and its why he won. We can all move along now, its finished, except for the whining crybabies still among us. Have conservatives ever lit trash cans on fire, blocked traffic, marched in the streets, given public speeches like the vile Judd obscenity? Or shall we all just Shia Labeouf things up? Is that what progressivism,does? Yes it is, when they dont win, but America will go on and if a liberal candidate ever has a messege that truly resonates with common people in mid America, they will win again. I may not agree, but I will salute them, and not go all Alex Baldwin on her or him. What a gross shameful stain on progressivism. Ok thats my final comment. Good posts fellow patriots.

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